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Saad Ali Khan Pakistan

Saad Ali Khan Pakistan (talk · contribs) has today been blocked on en.wiki after they were identified as being a sockpuppet. Their reaction has been to nominate for deletion dozens of maps they uploaded to commons (many of which are in use on English and Urdu wikis) with the rationale "I am the owner and copyright holder of this map and I want it to be deleted because I will use this on my own website". This appears disruptive – should the deletion requests be closed down? The responses to this one suggest their rationale is not a valid one. Cheers, Number 57 (talk) 22:25, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

These could all be speedy-kept. You can't revoke an irrevocable license. Nothing of it being licenced prevents him using it also on his own site. - Jmabel ! talk 22:49, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
✓ Done I agree with Jmabel. Done. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 20:49, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi The Squirrel Conspiracy, could you please also take care of Commons:Deletion requests/? The page was created by another user in error(?) and Saad Ali Khan Pakistan used it further to request deletion of his files. Ratekreel (talk) 22:49, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
✓ Done The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 06:33, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Moving File:Flag of France.svg

Hi. France had changed its flag since 2020. However, the names of the files are incorrect, making the flag cannot be updated in all wiki pages. I suggest moving File:Flag of France.svg to File:Flag of France (1976-2020).svg while moving File:Flag of France (1794–1815, 1830–1974, 2020–present).svg to File:Flag of France.svg. These should be moved at same time to prevent the change by the bot. Пусть от победы☆к победе ведёт! 10:26, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

✓ Done —Matrix(!) ping onewhen replying {user - talk? - uselesscontributions} 12:25, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(note: moved to [1] instead) —Matrix(!) ping onewhen replying {user - talk? - uselesscontributions} 12:32, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Matrix: have you checked this RfC? M.Bitton (talk) 11:41, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@M.Bitton: There's precedent to move files to new names when the flag is updated, e.g. File:Flag of Kyrgyzstan.svg, File:Flag of Mauritania.svg, File:Flag of Malawi.svg, File:Air Force Ensign of India.svg etc. The discussion (not RfC) you linked also has 5 1/2 agree votes vs 3 oppose votes, and 5.5 > 3 so seems like a rough consensus to me. —Matrix(!) ping onewhen replying {user - talk? - uselesscontributions} 19:57, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Matrix: my bad for linking to the discussion when I actually meant the RfC that the discussion was based on. I didn't know that there was such a rule as "precedent" on Commons, but since there is one, we might as well make full use of it and change the colours of the flag according to this official source (which would make it closer to the one that was replaced). Please let me know what you think. M.Bitton (talk) 02:31, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@M.Bitton: You seem to have misunderstood the source you linked. It looks to be defining a colour palette for French government websites rather than talking about the flag. Indeed there is no mention of a flag on the page. Pinging @Jean-Frédéric and Christian Ferrer: who can verify this as French speakers. A good source that agrees the current version is the official Ggvernment flag is Britannica.
Also, about your point "I didn't know that there was such a rule as "precedent" on Commons", what I mean is that usually flags are moved to new names when updated, so it wouldn't make sense to not do it in this scenario. RfCs at enwiki don't really affect Commons, also noting that enwiki decided to upload their own locally hosted file for the French flag. Even if we ignore precedent, the Commons discussion you linked has 5.5 people who want to have the new flag under this file name, and 3 people against. This is similar to consensus found at Commons:Village_pump/Archive/2024/06#Renaming of File:Air Force Ensign of India (2023).svg. —Matrix(!) ping onewhen replying {user - talk? - uselesscontributions} 17:25, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Matrix: it's true that those colours are not specifically about the flag, but being part of the symbols of the French republic, they are the closest thing we have to the official colours of the flag (French blue, white and Marian red), which is also shown here (and described as the flag). Most of those who supported the change where in fact supporting what they perceived as the official flag, whose precise colours were/are unknown. M.Bitton (talk) 17:57, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@M.Bitton: The current file is at least close to the official/default flag, per [2] and other sources. The other flag is an alternate official flag. Whilst the exact shades of dark can be debated due to varying digital interpretations, it's clear the URL here has shades that are definitely not close to the current official flag's shades. —Matrix(!) ping onewhen replying {user - talk? - uselesscontributions} 18:49, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Matrix: since the other sources don't mention the exact colours, all we're left with is guesswork (depending on the light, the camera angle, etc). The flag that is used on the government website is as official as it can get and in line with the official colours. M.Bitton (talk) 18:57, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@M.Bitton: moving this to village pump rather than AN FYI. —Matrix(!) ping onewhen replying {user - talk? - uselesscontributions} 18:59, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Matrix: thanks. M.Bitton (talk) 19:03, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Comment I was pinged above as a french speaker, 1/ actually the French Flag is definited by the 2nd article of the French Constitution "L'emblème national est le drapeau tricolore, bleu, blanc, rouge.", litteraly traduced by "The national emblem is the tricolor flag, blue, white, red". Neither more nor less. The French Constitution is above all the other "common" laws, decrees, orders, circulars, ect... of the country, and 2/ it is also therefore of course above this page which is a graphic charter for government communication and public action. That don't mean that this charter is not relevant, it just mean that it can change tomorrow, next year or never. Now, if you ask me if we must update our French Flags here, or create new ones, or renames them... clearly I don't know. Hopes I helped. Christian Ferrer (talk) 21:31, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Christian Ferrer: thank you. BTW, The discussion was moved to the village pump. Best, M.Bitton (talk) 21:35, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unfair block and removal

On 17 November, I made multiple AWB-assisted edits to format file pages. None of my edits disrupted any page, yet –right after I went offline– 4 or 5 of them (out of hundreds) were contested by another user, who –in less than a couple hours– wrote both here and on my talk page about a bot not responding to talk page and –despite I answered both him and admin Yann in less than 10 hours– admin blocked me for 3 days and unilaterally removed my rights to Commons:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPageJSON, and refused to provide any rule/guideline against my edits, which, as I said before, literally disrupted 0 pages (out of hundreds I edited that day). Unless said admin resurrects and finally provides a guideline I broke, I may deserve some apologies, and I'm here to request the full restoration of my user rights. Daniele Fisichella 14:05, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Was there community approval for the kind of text edits you made? If yes, a link please? RoyZuo (talk) 16:49, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My take, looking at one of these edits more or less at random: with reference to https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Handspindelpresse,_Zinkh%C3%BCtter_Hof_(2).jpg&diff=prev&oldid=958264099, changing another user's chosen way to be credited as author is certainly not good. That is their prerogative, not yours. The date format change is probably good; much of the rest of this is the sort of thing that fires off a notification and does nothing to improve the page. - Jmabel ! talk 17:42, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Jmabel: I did not change the way the user was credited, I just formatted it with {{U}} without changing the layout. Besides that and date, I just fixed the position of the categories. None of these is a valid reason for a 3 days block and removal of my user rights to AWB. Daniele Fisichella 14:43, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You were blocked because of edits like this. Removing 1= breaks the display in many cases, and is useless anyway. Yann (talk) 14:53, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Yann: No, because it did not break any page at all, since I only removed it from the pages which did not have equal signs inside the description, and you know 1= is only needed when descriptions include equal signs, as I had already argumented on my talk page, otherwise they're useless. Moreover, 99.99% of my edits of that day fixed categorization or formatted the templates in file pages. Cite any page I disrupted, if there's even a single one, otherwise I stand by what I wrote since the beginning of this thread. Daniele Fisichella 23:22, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, but you have it wrong. 1= should be added everywhere, even when it is not needed now. It should never be removed, even if it is not needed now. Yann (talk) 07:48, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think you should be regranted AWB access as you don't seem to understand the problem with altering user's names on files.
 ∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 12:02, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete 580 cat redirects

https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?sort=last_edit_desc&search=category%3A+intitle%3A%2Fanoramics%2F+hastemplate%3Acategory_redirect

please delete all these cat redirects except Category:Panoramics, because they have implausible titles.

(if possible, dont delete all those "Panoramics in/of <country name>" either, but it's not necessary.)

see also Commons:Categories for discussion/2018/02/Category:Panoramics.--RoyZuo (talk) 20:20, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree. After nearly two decades of usage, these should be kept as redirects. - Jmabel ! talk 21:41, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?limit=100&offset=0&profile=default&search=category%3A+intitle%3A%2Fanoramics%2F+hastemplate%3Acategory_redirect&sort=create_timestamp_asc
sorting from old to new, Category:Panoramics of volcanoes of Chile, the 100th oldest of the 580 cat redirects was created in 2014 and turned into redirect in 2017. where's your "two decades"? RoyZuo (talk) 22:08, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
and sorting from new to old, the 49th newest Category:Panoramics of Ashdod was created in april 2024. RoyZuo (talk) 22:13, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?sort=last_edit_desc&search=category%3A+intitle%3A%2Fanoramics%2F+hastemplate%3Acategory_redirect+insource%3A%2Fanoramics%2F
and 257 of these, which is over half of them, are redirects from one implausible title to another implausible title. their targets are in the process of being removed as agreed upon in the cfd. what's the use of keeping these implausible redirects to targets that will soon also become deleted or redirected? leaving them around to confuse and work against uploadwizard, hotcat and catalot users? RoyZuo (talk) 22:36, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The first I checked had been in use since 2006. Redirects are helpful with uploadwizard, hotcat, etc - a user may not remember a correct or technical name, but the media will wind up there anyways thanks to the redirect. I have no objection to deletion of implausibly named never much used categories, but a large number of the categories you suggested for deletion are clearly not of that case. I have only looked at a sample, but from that I can see that your request as listed should be declined at least for being overly broad. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 22:48, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
#c-RoyZuo-20241124202000-Delete_580_cat_redirects: "if possible, dont delete all those "Panoramics in/of <country name>" either".
besides, between the 100th oldest (created in 2014) and the 580th oldest (aka the newest), what's the probability of 1 of them being in use since 2006? RoyZuo (talk) 23:05, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?sort=create_timestamp_asc&search=category%3A+intitle%3A%2Fanoram%2F
Category:Panoramas of Austria, 30th oldest (out of all 13,615 existing cat pages, including both normal pages and redirects) with "anoram" intitle, was created on 18 July 2007. RoyZuo (talk) 23:13, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Here are all 9 cat pages with "anoram" intitle, created before 2006-12-31, and related to the cat tree Category:Panoramas. none of them is a redirect and so none of them was in my original list of search results proposed for deletion.
RoyZuo (talk) 23:21, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't look it up before writing, but my point is the same even if it's only 5 or 10 years. A lot of people are used to these category names, vanishing them does not seem wise. - Jmabel ! talk 03:08, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
as a user after nearly two decades, you should probably know the drill: if you want to argue against at least 3 users' unanimous opinion (with regard to the grammatical error), start a cfd. RoyZuo (talk) 09:12, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@RoyZuo: * Keep as in violation of policy COM:CATRED.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 15:45, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
what does that link mean? which one of these pages has "correct expectable name"? RoyZuo (talk) 17:04, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@RoyZuo: All have been used cats, and must stay as redirects as a matter of policy.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 15:48, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Panoramics_in_Toronto,_2023&action=history
"All have been used"? dont ping users for incorrect statements. RoyZuo (talk) 15:57, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ask Geo Swan.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 16:19, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'd keep them for now, at least until categories are normalized in one way or the other. I'd review that question later. In general, it's a bad idea to have large numbers of very similar redirects.
 ∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 16:23, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

split

File:Vittoria_Teatro_Comunale.jpg
is it possibile to split this page in two? there are two files uploaded (and ofc the last one replaced the first one) and also inconsistency with authors and lincenses.
those are two different photos and both are ok. GioviPen GP msg 21:17, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2016 photo was from Facebook so I reverted to original photo and restored pre-2016 file info. I also revdelled the 2016 image since we can't verify it's free. Abzeronow (talk) 21:30, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please change page lang

Please change page language of メインページ from English(en) to Japanese(ja). This page is in Japanese. Chqaz (talk) 11:51, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

✓ Done. -- CptViraj (talk) 15:15, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Statista

Could an administrator verify if the images in this category are really GFDL. As far as I can tell, the website legal disclamer does not permit commercial use: "1.4 All right, title, and interest (including all copyrights, trademarks and other intellectual property rights) in the Online Services and Materials in any medium belong to Statista or its third party suppliers of Materials. Neither Members nor Authorised Users acquire any proprietary interest in the Online Services, Materials, or copies thereof, except the limited rights granted herein." (https://fr.statista.com/mentions-legales/). Pierre cb (talk) 15:04, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • A quick look showed one claimed to be CC-by-4.0 with no support from the source site, and another clearly labeled as CC-ND (not allowed on Commons). I suspect most are either be copyvios or at least dubious claims; need to be deleted or listed at del req. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 16:52, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Moving Flag of the Vatican City.svg

Hi. The Vatican had changed its flag since 2023. However, the names of the files are incorrect, making the flag cannot be updated in all wiki pages. I suggest moving File:Flag of the Vatican City (2023–present).svg to File:Flag of the Vatican City.svg. These should be moved at same time to prevent the change by the bot. SpinnerLaserzthe2nd (talk) 17:00, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Datasets about potential logos - October 2024 uploads

Hi all, we have released a new dataset of potential logos uploaded in October 2024, together with another one of those which have already been deleted as of 2024-11-25. We are sharing them with you for your consideration.

This is part of our current work with the logo detection tool. We hope it will be useful for your moderation activities.

If you encounter issues with the datasets or have comments/requests, please reach out to me or to Sannita (WMF).

Thanks for your attention! –-MFossati (WMF) (talk) 17:51, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

File:Nataha ooo.jpg

personal attack by a vandal. --Jphwra (talk) 12:52, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jphwra: File:Nataha ooo.jpg was already deleted. Please use the colon trick per internal links.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 15:57, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
OK Jphwra (talk) 18:41, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Obvious troll

BDHotRockey28 (talk · contribs) —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:54, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

✓ Done Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:40, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Request to move Category:History of the Czechia by district

Please move this category over a redirect because the name is not grammatical (there should be no "the" in the name). The new name could be either of these, both of which already exist:

Thanks. -- Auntof6 (talk) 08:43, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

✓ Done Moved to Category:History of the Czech Republic by district. - Jmabel ! talk 19:21, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Jmabel: Thanks. -- Auntof6 (talk) 20:51, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please update Module:Wikidata Infobox

Hello,

Module:Wikidata Infobox has to be replaced with the current version of its sandbox. At present, automatic categorization based on Wikidata is broken due to a change of the way Wikidata handles labels, to which the module on Commons has to adapt. Plenty of people are getting frustrated at Template talk:Wikidata Infobox#Fallback autocat names to mul language. Yours, GrandEscogriffe (talk) 12:53, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

✓ Done Mike Peel (talk) 18:30, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Flickr bot Malfunction

Dear Admins,

The Flickr bot has stopped working for 2 full days now since the first 2 hours of November 27, 2024. The flickr backlog is now 1600+ images. I noticed the problem when I uploaded an image on November 29, 2024 but nothing happened. Best Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 03:19, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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